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Reading a recent post about why childfree people talk about children so much.... [livejournal.com profile] ernunnos explained that the movement was in its earliest stages and that right now it's just letting like-minded people know that they're not alone, even though everyone else in the world is trying to tell them differently.

But in that way, my mind couldn't resist seeing the commonality between the childfree and the pro-anorexic.

So what is the life cycle of a counterculture, and is there any reason that morally sound movements have any evolutionary advantage over the misguided or dangerous ones?

Date: 2002-07-24 03:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] subbes
I'm not even going to start responding to this one, because at the moment I'm tired and it'll come out wrong.

But it was something about pro-ana, and freedom of speech, and the general line of that thing.
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Date: 2002-07-24 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheryln.livejournal.com
Sort of like a church, isn't it?

Sort of, except the specific two mentioned here don't have leadership per se, or specific individuals widely associated with the culture. I wonder if that, more than "moral soundness," is the evolutionary advantage, because the movement isn't wrapped up in a charismatic individual.

Date: 2002-07-24 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
All online forums have fights among members and splinter groups.

And the only 'line' I know of in alt.support.childfree today is 'No kids and a desire never to have kids'. Whether you had a tubal or not just doesn't seem to be a factor.

Some asc members hate all parents and all kids. Some don't. Some hate many kids and love other kids. It's all good. We can deal with it. Nobody is ostracized for having a day care job.

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Date: 2002-07-24 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pentomino.livejournal.com
I'm just juxtaposing a group with which I sympathize with one with which I don't.

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