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unbibium ([personal profile] unbibium) wrote2003-05-03 04:24 pm

"Science" with finger quotes.

If creationism is being taught in schools in the South, and only men can bake cookies in textbooks nationwide, then perhaps we should start a campaign to get schools to start teaching parallel chemistry curricula.

Right now, our children are being taught that in combustion, material combines with oxygen in the air. But, in the name of fairness, should we not also propose the alternate theory of combustion, that phlogiston is released from flammable objects into the air? And, of course, tell the children to use their own critical thinking facilities to decide for themselves which is true.

Hell, I'm not putting any kids into this system, so why the hell not? But if you are, maybe you should read the book whose review I just linked to.
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[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Phlogiston should probably be regulated by the government. What happens the day some terrorist releases phlogiston in a crowded theater? I tremble at the thought.

[identity profile] azazelle.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh holy fuckin' ancient, parachuting gawds 0_0
Not that I'm too fond of rosy-cheeked, beponytailed girls in checker-print dresses baking cookies with their mothers, or lovable rascal boys riding their ancient Wigry bikes, but that's truly going overboard. Fuckin' well leave history alone! It's not a pleasant subject and still won't be in 100 years' time, but that's not a reason to castrate the fuck out of it.

No owls? Hey, they're in Harry Potter; why not replace "owls" with "hawks"!

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[identity profile] pentomino.livejournal.com 2003-05-04 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Harry Potter has its own controversies. It's Satanic, remember?

Are the educational systems this bozotic elsewhere in the world?

rant ahead.

[identity profile] azazelle.livejournal.com 2003-05-05 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
Oh. Yeah, sure. Satanic. Sorry, I tend to forget stuff when I get oversaturated with absurdity. *puts hands over eyes to stop their rolling*

I very strongly dislike the Polish school system. Yes, it's crammed chock full of subjects and I could probably pass the SATs as a Polish sophomore put in the senior grade of an American high school, but I don't feel it's versatile enough. Not nearly enough HSs have profiled curricula, so most everyone learns the same subjects in the same proportions. Then there's the case of final exams - we used to choose three oral and three written subjects for those, but now there's a set of must-pass science exams to which a few other ones are added. I'm painfully aware I wouldn't pass the finals now, not with all the high-level mathematics, physics, history and biology.
History's taught rather OK and quite accurately here, though it's BO-RINNNNG like all hells [to me at least], but I couldn't find any discrepancies between schoolbooks and established historical sources [I'm not talking about extreme-left and extreme-right publications, because in those one would only find that Jews and Masons are guilty of everyfuckinthing]. Poland is big on history, because right now it's about the only point of reference for most people.
Polish primers are being remodeled right now from abovementioned rosy-cheeked children Playing Gender-Appropriate Games to, i.e., daddies helping out in the kitchen. We don't have many minorities of other skin colors yet, though there's more Asians with every passing year, so most likely in a decade or so the ABC's little Ala and Jasio will find themselves playing with Tranh and Lee.
You won't find Creationism in any schoolbook, unless you'd count the Christian mythology section of world history or abbreviated Bible for those kids who take religion. I don't think even the right-wingers would push their luck with it. As for now they're doing their best to ban sex ed. before it was even implemented [|it corrupts our chyllldrunnnn!"], but it's just not feasible to rewrite history, geography and biology here.

Want to know more? Gimme topics, I'll gladly rant.